Yep like ndalby mentioned it’s the same thing. It’s 10.25% by volume.
Beer Club Thread
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Than this 10, 25 % vol stuff is a real strong one!
I would recommend to drink such a bottle when sitting on the edge of the bed! 
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It’s still less than most wines! But yes it has quite a kick for a beer.
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Really!
I would be careful to drink such a beer.
Same is with that “Doppelbock”
Tasty but dangerous!
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The red Portuguese ones we know, are about 13,0 and 13,5 %vol.
There is a fruity one “Vinho verde” (white) about 10 %vol
Excellent with fish.
But on the Acores islands there is a a dry red one with 10 -11 %vol
Great wine, really “digestible”. ((called vinho de cheiro (wine with smell))
But not available on the the continent 
Funny indeed the grapes are called “american grapes” there.
But we are talking about beer.
PROST aus München!
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If you get a chance to try it, I’ve personally been quite into Zinfandels this past year! They’re a red wine, also known as Primitivo in Italy.
Maybe we need a Liquor Club Thread to cover all our alcoholic tendencies…
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I’ve only ever had barelywine or imperial porter that’s been in that range of abv.
The porter would make Guinness blush… dark and tasty.
I’ve had some stouts and ales in the 7-9% range but for the lighter coloured ipas, don’t find much around here past 5%.
Glad you were able to secure a healthy qtys of the pliny. Would take great restraint to not pace out the consumption…
Cheers 
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Count me in on that!
Beer, all kinds of beer!
Had a trip to the local cash and carry earlier and couldn’t resist taking this for the thread!
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Looks the same as my beer store here in München.
Its like hall with huge “towers” of beer, liquor, wine etc.
But mostly beer is sold in 20 X 1/2 liter bottles (returnable bottles)
Even on cans there is a deposit here in Germany.
That’s really good!
Can this ladder be used by customers?
Dangerous for an old boozer to get up
and catch beer at the top of the pile.
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Yes Franz, this is a typical cash and carry store for business use. This one specialises mainly in food and drink and that was a small selection.
In the U.K. we don’t have deposit on bottles, we used to many years ago, but not anymore.
Most retailers etc don’t have space or logistics to handle it. But we have many community recycling points (large bins near local shops) and the local council supplies a recycling bin for homes which you can put in glass, paper and plastic which gets recycled.
The steps should be for store use only, but people use then to get the high items because they are too impatient to wait for help 
Have a great day @Chiquinho
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The deposit of cans and bottles reduced the garbage on public places, streets and parks a lot in Germany
This was the only good idea the “Greens” had. (shhht, no politics 
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Meanwhile many poor pensioners are doing bottle and can connection.
I see the cans (25c deposit) often put on top of public bins so that collectors can find them easily,
Beside that those non deposite cans and bottles can be collected in huge bins for recycling.
We do this of course though I am not a Green!
At home we have 3 bins
A normal one, one for paper and one for “organic waste”
(the paper and the organic waste are free)
Than the huge public ones (plastics, glass, metal and clothes)
This works perfectly, other things not.
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It sounds like nost of Europe could teach us a few things about recycling.
We have reasonable facilities here but not as good as it could be.
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May be in recycling questions, but not in others!
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Haha, yes, you could be right
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I know I am right Paul.
But no politics…hehehe!
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I’ve seen a couple of successful schemes.
In California your domestic rubbish collection you had to pay for, you had a choice of trash bin size and larger cost more. You got recycling bins cardboard, cans, organic waste for free. That encouraged to recycle to the maximum.
They also had recycling centers where you either pushed in whole cans and accumulated a credit, or took bags of cans to be weighed and credited.
Some people augmented their income by finding and collecting cans, made the streets cleaner, they’d also go into city trash bins and find and get the cans, and they’d go overnight through domestic bins and extract contents for profit.
So you’d often see someone on a bike carrying large bags of plastic bottles to go and get a few $. I did a rough calculation and it was decent income. It’s probably now more profitable to be a takeaway delivery cyclist.
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That’s a solid selection of beer! I haven’t heard of most of them though.
There’s so many beers to try and only one liver to suffer through it all…
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Hey @Achimel
There were a few there I hadn’t seen either.
Like you say, only one liver.
I dont think science has developed enough to replace the liver has it? 
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