I remembered an old macbook in my “stores”.
Searched for it -> Works fine.
I could install a chrome browser, never thought its possible. 
The macbook is from about 2010 (Yosemite)
Often programs can not be installed on elder Mac devices.
eg. Ipod and Ipad.
Do we have a skilled mac user here who could help If I have some questions?
Not sure if I would call myself a skilled MacBook user but I’m always up for trying to help no guarantee I will have the answer
Oh ja Kaitlyn :
Is there a way to install may be the kindle reader on an elder Ipad.
When I try I am told its not compatible with the OS on this IPAD.
Are those elder versions of apps stored somewhere?
I don’t think you can directly on the iPad sadly which annoys me a lot as well but according to one of the questions on the Apple support page if you have a Mac laptop of some kind it might be possible to access the older versions of the app
I’m not totally sure this will work but seems like the best chance for success unless other have different ideas
I will take a look if I get something working tomorrow.
Thank you.
The weekend is almost over 
I should’ve taken tomorrow off 
I am not as up to date on Mac OS as I used to be. I was very will versed on OS 6, 7, 8, 9 and the hardware that ran it. I was even a bata tester for OSX. Those were the days…
They should have kept the battery indicator the way it was in bata, it was way cooler.
LOL I just got through talking to my brother about his old macbook as we went electronic shopping at Best Buy. He has used his for years but he started to say it was having issue with installing stuff. It was during this weekend when he came over but he actually mentioned maybe reinstalling it for a fresh restart. Since we were busy at the time, I never thought about when he restarted it but I would say most of the apps that worked would not probably work after that. I guess I better update him on that or he will be DOA on that fresh restart LOL
Best life extension any hardware can get is Linux.
On Apple the decay into useless is the hardware doesn’t get OS updated then eventually new software won’t work on old OS.
The key to avoiding obsolescence is avoid Apple. Get Android as you can move to community support free AOSP, and old windows Intel laptops can be happy with Linux for many years after official support gone. You then get latest software easily til the hardware cannot run the apps as too low spec as apps bloat. Linux minimal OS and Chrome can make a type of Chromebook which can be useful for decades.
You have to make sure to get android with an unlocked bootloader. Samsung is particularly bad in that way, but so are many others.
Correct, such as OnePlus.
Best to use “old laptops” with Intel architecture. eg. Thinkpads.
Mine is from 2010 is a real gem.
2,4 ghz, 8GB, 128GB SSD
I dont need more.
I assume old ipads have to have forced obsolence imposed by Apple. But what about old macbooks, intel architecture so can run Linux in hardware? Unlockable?
While it is good Apple do many years of support, more than typical, their locked architecture does cause more landfill than a Dell / Thinkpad type which does when physically dead many years later thanks to Linux.
Of course I can install a LINUX system.
But the Macbook I have left here is OK, all programs I need so far are installed.
So I will not change this to LINUX.
Never change a running system, you know it as well!
This old IPAD I will sell, no more use, came back from my daughter.
My OnePlus One is finally at the point that certain apps will no longer run correctly on it. It had a really good run, can highly recommend OnePlus.
They currently have some specials going on right now. https://www.oneplus.com/
I had the OPO, OP2, OP3T, OP6. Then the prices got stupid and so others like Samsung float to top. OnePlus had it’s day. Going forward, yes unlockable bootloaders means the hardware can be used for ages. I use my old phones as Eufy competitor and my own software and my own server and my own cloud backup. The advantage of a community is all the complaints are public to know what to avoid.
My OP3T is a motion sensing battery-backed smart camera, think how good are phone cameras, an old phone can still better at things than new things.
Old laptops turning into effectively Chromebooks is a good thing for landfill and low income children home schooling contexts (what I do on my side). I have an intense dislike of the locked down iPads being bought at huge expensive to make Apple fans as adults who then cause a lifetime of brand loyalty landfill. As Franz correctly states, way out of support 10 year old laptops still have useful life. I’m using a 7 year old laptop right now. Ubuntu 20.04. Prevented it going to scrap metal.
What I will say for apple hardware in general - I have seen far more low tech people with still running and useful 10 year old macbooks than I ever have with Dell or similar windows PCs. The more expensive hardware is built better. It is often harder to repair, but for most people the cost of having someone else do the repairs is more than the value of the hardware after 5-6 years, so it just becomes a question of durability.
My Nexus 7 was a great tablet when I got it in 2013 right after release. The first replacement screen was 2015, and would have killed it for most people. The second replacement only happened because my brother’s had died of other causes, so cannibalized for parts. That one cracked recently and my son gets to tear it down for fun now. It felt painfully slow even after a clean reset now anyway.
It was much cheaper than an iPad, and a good life out of it. For most people it would have been dead 5 years ago though. But I know people with iPads that age that are still very usable, and no one else with an Android tablet close to that old that is still functional.
All that to say - the most common decay into uselessness I see is hardware failures - either catastrophic, or relative performance loss. Most people either can’t or don’t want to deal with those, or the cost doesn’t make sense. I think Apple might be better than most for most people in terms of years of life per $ spent or hardware in a a landfill. Despite all the things I dislike about them.
Did you ever get in touch with LINUX?
The best you can install on an old Laptop, which normally would be thrown into the garbage.
I hate wasting good old hardware, but Apple and MS are forcing their customers. 
A 10 year old dell laptop is running Ubuntu for the kids. It runs fine, just for web browsing at a desk. Battery is shot, and the plastic case has some cracks.
Had an identical one and did a free upgrade from Windows 7 to 10 (basically possible with any still running windows computer) and then gave it to in-laws who will use it as a desktop for a while also. With Windows 10, MS has basically moved to licenses for the life of the hardware, you just keep updating. We’ll see if they stick with it, but moves in the right direction.
Both run about the same speed for basic web browsing, Windows 10 is easier for others to help them out with.
Apple’s support is quite long generally. And you can keep using the old OS indefinitely as long as you don’t need new software. I have two 10 year old macbooks in the house, both running fine despite not qualifying for the latest OS release.
Most of these 10 year old computers were either very cheap or free to me after others had taken them past their usable life to them. Linux is great, but it doesn’t automatically add much value these days, apple and MS have both gotten better. All have SSDs, which makes a huge difference - some came native, and some I upgraded. Anything without an SSD feels too slow.
Have you ever checked what all kind of processes are running in the background of such a MS system, slowing down the computer enormously
by wasting CPU power eg. virus scanner and others.
But we will not get into a discussion about OS.
I used/use all, but I also know persons who will never touch a MS system.
That’s more than psychology.
Never forget -> LINUX is free!
