Prediction: Anker wireless roll-up desk mat

30W-60W Wireless Qi is in the works, primarily for laptops.

30W+ Wireless products exist now but they are vendor proprietary, but work is towards a common standard, and then Anker can make to that standard.

So I predict Anker will make in early 2021

  • a roll-up mat
  • initially white, then choice of black, red, blue.
  • will be around 24in wide, 18in deep, rolled up will be 18in by 2.5in diameter.
  • will contain 3 Qi area, one each side 15W, central large one 30W.
  • you can put your laptop in the center
  • you can put phone / buds to left/right based on your handedness
  • a USB-C port out the back
  • if enough people express interest, can be out by March 2021.
  • I’d buy a roll-up 3 pad wireless pad.
  • Not interested, won’t buy.

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Only reason I chose as not interested is the space this would occupy…

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I think a large mouse pad would be awesome anker could partner with a mouse pad company or dbrand for custom designs

24x18 is a little skinny IMO I have a 36x16 but I wish it was a little deeper so I think 36 by 18 would be a perfect size.

That said a large pad like this would be a pain in the ass to move around from place to place but It wouldn’t necessarily need to be moved. The only time I move mine is when I’m cleaning the table underneath.

I also think getting proper cooling in such a high wattage wireless charging pad that can be rolled up poses a few problems but again a large charging mouse pad like this doesnt need to be super portable and a more rigid design will allow you to toss in a few cooling fans maybe some rgb LEDs with Bluetooth and companion application to control the LEDs :thinking:

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The wireless transmission does not cause heat, it’s the eddy currents unintentionally caused in all receiving device which then is physically next to the transmitter, causes the heat in the transmitter. The transmitter has no issues with that reflected back (conductive) heat as it has no batteries.

I was reading up the Qi 1.2.4 specs which are going to 60W, for laptops, and most 60W laptops have fans already, so the gap in the market is a 60W transmitter. Most desks, furniture, at home / office will take 3-5 years to get wireless transmitters built into furniture, so for that 3-5 years period you’re talking a roll-out mat you buy and put on your desk. If it’s a kitchen table then it has to be plastic rigid to handle spills, or roll-up removable. I reckon the latter is going to be more portable. Wires which make the Qi loop are easily bendable.

I calculated the thickness of the mat, it doesn’t need to be too thick as you can just use flat copper and it only gets thick at the USB-C port.

So it’s quite viable.

Anker probably know this already, so probably is a prototype.

Anker would never discuss their ideas with us, they’d be worried we’d leak their ideas, but we can discuss it and they observe.

Most Anker products are sold through Amazon, so think about Amazon locker, that puts an upper physical size on shipped product.

To make it 36in would need it to fold down the middle then roll up. That would be an engineering challenge.

What would be a fair price for such item?

Cannot compute a fair price, as that is market driven, can compute the raw manufacturing costs around $95.

Two 15W pads, $10 each
One 60W pad (may be 30W, it’s new tech), $40
A roll-up pad, $20
USB 100W port $15

Price… $200 , if market analysis doesn’t get to this number then it’s not worth making.

At this price, It has to be a bundle Wireless charging mat + Charger (may be a 65W or 100W)

Could be interesting but still quite happy with the good old fashioned cable for my devices :slightly_smiling_face:

Would you be interested in a small mousepad with wireless charging then? That way not as much space

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yes, that would be good. :+1:

Agreed I have a small desk at home and have been looking to get one for a while would be cool if Anker could make one because I would definitely pause my shopping for one for now till they do.

Do you guys think Laptops will be capable of wireless charging by then?
Most phone brands caught up now, yet the speeds are very low that I still hesitate to buy one.
If the speeds are good enough and not cause the laptop to go dead, the price point is not too high (<$100) I may give it a try. But then comes the question of existing laptops, unless my current laptop is dead and replaced by a new-age wireless charging capable laptop why would I invest in that mat?

You are correct we’re discussing injecting future products to complement future products.

This is how the future looks:

  1. We already have vendor specific proprietary 45W charging for use in larger tablets.

Example:

This video is of a tablet but a laptop would place wireless charging underside obviously

  1. Vendor specific is usually done to not wait for standards consortium to agree. Qi has 60W standard drafts I’d expect to become a standard during 2021.

  2. It is the laptops release later in 2021 which use 30W-60W Qi standard then is the device which then calls for this envisaged Anker mat.

  3. Wireless creates heat, so the higher Wattage Qi will have to initially come out in devices with fans, so laptops. I’d expect Dell, Lenovo, LG to have prototypes now.

What we are doing here is discussing when it can be made, should it be made.

Qi 60W standard then will become fitted in desks, office, conference rooms, home office situations but for at least 1-2 years it is a retrofit, so a roll-out mat.

Holy crap that’s a lot for wireless charging, I’d just use a cable instead

I agree the cost is there.

Below are not recommendations, just illustrations of high performance and high cost.

Example of a 30W wireless charger testing the market tolerance for price.

And here a 3 in 1

So if a MacBook Pro (MBP) has an ARM version, you’d get lower power consumption, so less heat, which frees up thermal headroom to also have 30W Wireless charging.

So later 2020 into early 2021 you’ll have a MBP which can be wirelessly charged by Anker. It just needs both sides to decide to.

So what you’d do is pick up / put down your laptop and move it around and it gets enough of a wireless recharge to last a long day and finish the day not empty.

You’d buy that?