Now, that would be a question for @AnkerOfficial, @AnkerTechnical, or @AnkerSupport.
[New Release] PowerPort III 2-Port 60W
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@AnkerOfficial @AnkerTechnical @AnkerSupport can you please help answer the above question, thank you!
As they state they test the needs every 3 minutes, that means they are turning power off and on and then let the device decide its pull.
The issue with that method is priority, they not numbered the ports so how do you know “first refusal”?
You cannot implement truly intelligent power distribution until you allow the user (us) to give hints as to what matters most.
Example of what I am wanting:
- 2 port device, numbered ports 1 and 2
- port 1 is priority, it is turned on 1st, then allowed to settle on what it needs
- port 2 is 2nd turned on, it is offered whatever is remaining
- every few minutes, both ports turned off and the above repeats.
Example:
- port 1 is laptop
- port 2 is a Powercore PD
- it is most energy efficient to recharge laptop, until it lowers its needs, then unused power, increasing all the time as the laptop gets to fully charged, to the Powercore.
- initially the Port 1 may be 45W, so Port 2 can not exceed 15W
- later Port 1 drops to only need 30W, so Port 2 can be up to 30W
- later Port 1 drops to say 10W, so Port 2 can be 50W.
Great idea… one charger to simultaneously charge my X1 carbon (needs at least 45W) and Pixel 3/S10+ is such a convenience. The interchangeable plugs are great for international travel.
Do want!
The output power will distributed intelligently according to the apple device need.
For Android device, it will divide to 30w + 30w
I guess it’s a logistics/size thing but do you think a manual controlled variable output could be achieved in a charger?
So perhaps some kind of setting control for each socket to control the output?
Or am I just being stupid?
@AnkerOfficial what are your thoughts on this?
Cheers for sharing.
This may make the “I want” list
it is disappointing to see the intelligence not there for all devices, it is not difficult, Anker could easily do.
You have numbered ports. The power is periodically turned off all ports, then port 1 is enabled and allowed to take all the power it needs. Then port 2. Then if multiple ports then the 3rd etc.
You’d then plug your laptop into port 1 and say your buds port 2, and Powercore port 3
As it wastes energy to recharge a battery from a battery, devices like laptops need to get all they want. Buds need a small power for a long time. Any spare power budget goes to Powercore.
This 30/30 split is dumb, it means say a laptop wanting 45W will only get 30W, while say a phone needing only 10W is given 30W so you’re only using 40W of 60W.
My method would get all power used, to all types of devices.
Manual altering power won’t work well, as a laptop recharges, it later drops it’s needs and so you’d want automatically use released power to other ports.
The words I am looking for and do not see anywhere are USB-C PD. Does this support the full USB-C power delivery spec? I assume it is similar, but the ad copy seems a little apple focused, and less standards focused.
Nope, this is PowerIQ 3.0.
Most likely, max 60 Watts total, but 60 watts can be sent to a single port.
Chargers seem to be getting bigger - you’d think a travel charger would be more compact
I have a generic travel charger with folding pins for UK-USA-EU
It’s a decent size & reliable but quite slow by current standards - I’m looking to upgrade a
Or USB-A port
Booo!
Nah, let’s have a fully loaded USB-C charger.
These travel chargers are the ones most crying out for a truly intelligent power distribution.
I know what below is a repeat of post 5, but travel chargers have a greater need than ones which stay home.
Problems (why):
- heat dissipation is to the square vs heat production to the cube. Higher wattage items become less efficient at shedding heat, so you must make them more slab shaped (flatter, pancake)
- when traveling you don’t want a slab shape because the weight and volume of the non-functional outer shell worsens
- you do get the point that two chargers is less weight and volume than one charger so often have a low power one for use in aircraft seats or where sockets are constrained access, and a higher power one for when sockets better
- but when traveling internationally the two chargers each need their own plug adapters.
So one way around this is:
- a lower power charger
- this does not have the sum of your device power needs, but about half to 2/3rds, this makes it smaller but not slower.
- you carry a Powercore, this allows you to survive a long day without access to power.
- when you get short access to a power socket you plug in devices if socket is nearby, if it’s distant you recharge Powercore.
- when you dont have a power socket, you use the Powercore
- once you are with a socket for a long time you plug in device and Powercore
- the charger has numbered ports, high priority and low priority
- your devices, e.g. laptop, plugs into high priority port
- your Powercore plugs into lower priority ports
- Anker turns all ports off every few minutes, say 10 minutes
- The priority port is turned on, allowed to negotiate the maximum is needs
- Then the lower priority port is turned on
- and so on for 3 or 4 ports
- as the priority device gets charged, once it nearly fully charged it will drop it’s needs, e.g. the current will fall
- at the next charger recycle, ports turned off and on, the priority port will ask for less power
- the lower priority port will be able to get more power as the high priority port device gets charged
Example without this idea (what Anker is doing now non intelligent):
- dual 30W, connected to say a 45W laptop and a 45W Powercore
- you have to carry a huge 60W charger
- the laptop wants 45W but gets 30W so charges slower
- the Powercore even if nearly full and so only needs say 20W is given 30W, so in total 55W of 60W is used, and so power is wasted and the laptop is charging slower. Dumb.
Example with my idea, 60W charger
- the same above 45W laptop and 45W Powercore
- the laptop gets 45W and Powercore gets 15W
- as laptop gets full, it takes 30W, Powercore 30W
- laptop 15W, Powercore 45W
Example with 45W smaller charger:
- laptop get 45W, Powercore 0W
- laptop gets full, Powercore 30W
- unplug laptop, Powercore 45W
The charger is smaller, better for travel, but your device gets the maximum it needs and the budget balance is usefully put into Powercore
There is a cost of intelligence, the design and the parts, so I suggest you focus this in what is actually moving, specific travel chargers. The chargers which don’t move can be dumber and not higher cost.
Well I still have a speaker with micro USB and my Samsung watch cable is a micro USB as well
Same here, old Galaxy S5, Boost 20w and Bolder LC40, and all charge fine with a USB-C to micro USB cable