[New Release] PowerPort Atom III (Two Ports) | Anker’s First Charger with PowerIQ 3.0!

#33

The iPhone 8 and later models can fast charge one of two ways.

The first is via USB-C that supports USB Power Delivery, using a USB-C to Lightning cable. They have a draw limit of 15W (9V/1.67A). That’s built into the phone. In general they don’t actually draw much more than 10W unless the battery is nearly dead and you’re using it with heavy power demands.

The second is via USB-A that supports Apple 2.4A, using a regular Lightning cable. Apple 2.4A is an outdated, but still in play, fast charging standard Apple made before USB-C. That has a max draw rate of 10.5W. In real world practice USB Power Delivery charges faster if the iPhone’s battery is between 0-30%. The gap between the two narrows as you approach 50%. And by 70% both fast charging standards stop and normal charging kicks in.

Most of Anker’s USB-A ports support Apple 2.4A. So this new charger will fast charge the iPhone up to 15W via USB-C (but probably closer to 10W if you measured it at random). And probably up to 10.5W (buy probably closer to 8-9W measured at random) via USB-A. If charging overnight the difference doesn’t matter. If charging for only 30 minutes you’ll probably get more charge via USB-C.

The iPhone charges more slowly than most current Android phones with USB-C. Even with the most ideal charger and cable setup.

#34

@joshuad11 said fast charge is 18w.?.?. I’m even more confused now…

#35

The iPhone is compatible with 18 w Power delivery, a standard provided by the USB-c port. Apple is a little different than most because it will accept the power delivery over USB-c to lightning instead of just c to c.

Quick charge is a proprietary technology by Qualcomm that requires a chip in both the charger and the receiving device to activate. The iPhone does not have this and will only draw 12 w.

All the numbers are maximums though, the iPhone draws slower as the battery reaches full to protect it.

#36

18W = 9V/2A, which is more than enough for the iPhone. It is more common than 15W with 9V/1.66A. Usually when a USB-C charger lists 15W it is 5V/3A, which will not fast charge the iPhone. There’s what the phone will do. Then what common type of charger works well with the phone.

I test a lot of USB-C PD chargers with an iPhone. I rarely see it actually draw more than 10W. And that’s with the iPhone’s battery ~20-30% and active. I’ve never seen anything close to 18W, even with a 0% battery. I have seen close to 15W, but lasted about a minute before it reduced rate.

Bottom line is you can fast charge with USB-C provided it offers USB Power Delivery and 18W or better. Again, the iPhone doesn’t use the full 18W. But that is a common spec and easy to spot in a product listing.

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#37

Apple does not support Qualcomm Quick Charge. Apple devices are capped at 12W (5V at 2.4A) via USB-A. With Power Delivery (via USB-C), iPhone can accept up to 18W (9V at 2A).

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#38

Thanks for posting this @joshuad11. I’ll probably get this along with the PowerPort Atom PD 2. Probably not next weekend but sometime down the road I will. I own the Anker PowerPort II UL Certified 49.5W so this new charger would be a nice ‘upgrade’.

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#39

[quote=“Isaac_Schloss, post:11, topic:68915”]
I wonder if Usb-C powerbanks will fallow suit
[/quote]“More details on the entire lineup of PowerIQ 3.0 products will be announced in the coming weeks.”

In this case, I would recommend everyone hold off on buying products in other categories until later in the month…

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#40

Are they really listening to you, though? There are many other things you’ve asked for that we still have yet to see…

#41

No I don’t think they’re listening, I think this is marketing dept here to cause more stuff to be sold. There is a little bit of trickle back I expect to product managers but I think it is tiny.

This is the first product this year which may benefit me, it has the 45W PD for my Lenono laptop and an 15W IQ2 which is probably good for most of my other gadgets, but its still not intelligent enough.

Suppose I wanted to buy a Powercore which output PD, I’d want to share the 60W output based on need, e.g. a nearly empty laptop gets priority, til it approaches full, 85% typically, then it demands less and the 2nd port can take more. I could then all day use the laptop, keep it going with the Powercore and plug in laptop+Powercore when I get near a socket, knowing the laptop will get the maximum possible charge then the Powercore will get maximum possible charge using whatever the laptop does not need, and if I wait long enough, say overnight, both are charged.

PIQ3 but done intelligently, with a total power budget and multiple ports, with some prioritization so devices get priority over Powercore, is then the nirvana.

If they are shipping USB-C buds too then I’m still needing something more like a 3 or 4-port (laptop / tablet, Powercore, buds, phone). I’d not need any Type A ports then, USB-C buds, laptop, Powercore.

As physical size seems a function of Wattage, I’d want a small version 45W total, say 2-3 ports, a medium 60W 2-3 ports and a larger 100W 4 ports. The one I’d buy would probably be the 60W. This latest product comes close.

And thanks for letting us know to not buying - in my case I not really bought anything expensive charger wise from Anker for some time as its been excessively mediocre, slow, disappointing for a few years. I bought their 60W PD $36 as I needed to urgently a few months ago, yippee-do.

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#42

Recently got new laptop Lenovo ThibkPad T480, and this is capable of charging via USB-C PD, started using this with PowerPort+ Atom PD 4. Works pretty well… only that the size of Atom PD 4 is almost same as the brick charger that comes with Lenovo.

Will not be looking for any the more PowerPort chargers for sometime :slight_smile:

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#43

If PowerIQ 3.0 is supposed to be this “one for all” solution, I don’t understand why Anker’s first charger with it has another port without it… :confused:

IMO, all (or at least most) PIQ3 chargers should have nothing other than PIQ3 ports.

#44

Marketing.

Bear in mind there is probably an electronics genius inside Anker who knows the challenges with negotiating voltages, currents, protocols, and someone less qualified inside Anker is thinking branding, placement, marketing.

I also suspect the electronics genius does not speak English ( much ) and Marketing does.

Given the end product probably has to make profit in the $30-$40 region, means the electronics has to cost <$10. Marketing can make vast waffle for free!

So we are the output of marketing, which is spinning a truth, from someone we do not know within Anker.

#45

But I mean it makes since. If PIQ3 is truly a PD and QC replacement, why do we need PIQ2?

#46

Oh yes I know. It’s why IQ3 is fake. IQ3 = USB-C, IQ2 = Type-A.

Send out review units and let us figure the truth. I’ll take one. I have a Lenovo 45W PD, two Huawei 18W, and a OnePlus6 18W, I can test on.

#47

@Oggyboy

@MacBlank Sometimes you have to shell out your own money if it’s something you want… can’t always ask for free products.

It’s easier to beg for products for free than to buy them yourself? Not so sure…[quote=“professor, post:55, topic:68915”]
Your phone you recently got
[/quote]

How many times did you beg Samsung to send you out one for free?

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#48
  • PIQ 3.0 (USB-C Port): 5V ⎓ 2.4A / 9V ⎓ 3A / 15V ⎓ 3A / 20V ⎓ 2.25A (Up to 45W)
  • PIQ 2.0 (USB-A Port): 5V ⎓ 2.4A / 9V ⎓ 1.66A / 12V ⎓ 1.25A

QC?

I’m also still a little confused why PIQ 2 is only 15W. Was 18 then 19.5 now 15.

#49

I own Huawei Mediapad M5 10.8 and 8.4 and I plugged them into various Anker chargers I owned and measured success or otherwise.

I own a Pixel C, and Anker’s 60W PD charger is ignored, does not work, they refuse to get anything in common like even 5V.
I own an Anker PD 5, it does intersect PD at 9V 2A.

Yes, I am saying Anker has some weirdness to explain, and I suspect this is marketing who are not fact-checking with technical. Give it a few days for emails within Anker. Your problem is you are basically pre-announcing products. Anker has had 4-5 years of the initial wave of literature being awful, you are tripping up on that.

#50

Wait, so Anker essentially added the QC 3.0 standard to a USB-C port on a charger? Is that what this product is?

#51

QC and PD without officially being either.

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#52

There is another post for the same published today on community… So which Post gets merged to which one