Place Your Bets: Will iPhone 8 Succeed?

I’m glad to know!:grinning:

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Check out this app in the App Store. It’s called Battery Life. Let me know what percentage it says for your phone!

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You guys are the leaders in portable battery chargers. Design a longer lasting iPhone battery lol Apple always brags the newest iphone has better battery life and in my experience it is just as horrible as the previous iPhone model. :expressionless:

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Hahaha…thanks for your suggestion! Probably we will make it in the future…:joy:

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so even though Apple make a false claim and a promise which is always false, then you still keep buying?

You see how anyone not in the iSheep cognitive bias bubble can ponder why you’d do that for twice the price.

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Is this app can also report you that what kind of mobile applications will consume more power?

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I don’t think so. The main feature is the wear level. It will also keep track of the history so you can see how your battery is holding up over an extended period of time. I think it’s really neat!

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I think the iphone8 will succeed, not the type of iphone 4 success, but better than the iphone 7/7+ record. People in the US and Canada got used to the 2 years upgrade cycle. And this will be the upgrade time for iphone6/6s herds, who were disappointed with the 7/7+.

I found apple did a good job keeping the value of their phone over time unlike androids, which are hot for first 6 months then gone. Someone discussed here the battery life of the iphone6 (3 years old phone) and still demanded the battery life of it to be good. I dont think ios people are “isheeps” :)), go speak to samsung people and ask them about galaxy S6 problems, they properly will ask you to buy the S8. The success of Apple could also be attributed to Google, who really didnt care much about the software maintenance and support of their software.

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I read the aforementioned article and it actually reads as quite intelligent and thoughtful.

The fact that Apple has painted the iPhone into premium price corner when the general trend is downwards on average selling price, is where they could most probably tumble.

I spend a lot of time out with people on all sorts, whether its the Uber driver, or my children’s friends, or professionals, I tend to walk and bike and use trains so I’m usually with people using their smartphones. What seems to be happening right now is there is an “enough” plateau of “I don’t need any more” features in smartphones. My entree into smartphones in '90s was access to email, then it improved with GPS mapping navigation.

This is my first PDA:

What this replaced was:

  • diary, carrying a small book of my to-do, appointments, phone numbers, addresses.
  • calculator
  • pen and paper (note taker)

To get onto the Internet (it was most commonly called Usenet at the time), I needed a GSM phone

and a PCMCIA card which created a modem capability which I put in a PCMCIA adapter for the PDA.

What the Internet replaced initially was the FAX machine, via email.

These then later merged and I was quite happy for a period with:

At this stage speeds were usually of the order 2400bps - 9600bps so a modern smartphone with LTE with benchmarks of say 10Mbit is at least 10000 times faster.

Then:

Then the innovation stalled but it was once the inclusion of mapping with GSM came in it then jumped with this:

So then a 5 year battle between battery life, features, size has occurred but this seems somewhat now settled with a 5.5" slim phone to which most trouser pockets have gotten bigger.

For every added feature there is a size and battery life cost so we’re now somewhat stalled at compromising the most useful features in a fixed size device and small incremental battery worsening/improvements.

For me a good example of “good enough” was this:

Which I got for $89

This goes to the core of the problem with Apple currently, phones which are perfectly adequate are 1/10th to 1/2th the price of a new iPhone.

Correct, there is one born every minute

Their phones will usually last 2 years so there is a plateau of how many gullible will buy an overpriced phone like the iPhone.

Currently I have a OnePlus3T with two SIMs from ATT and T-Mobile and a smartwatch with an ATT MVNO SIM in, so I sometimes go out with no phone at all, getting email etc off my watch, because phones at 5.5" size are still a trouser tugger.

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I will have to agree with you but you have to also understand that Apple prices its devices as an luxury item. The price point will be the biggest thing that can help make the iPhone 8 sale well or crumble, me for instance I’m a huge fan of iDevices but the main issue is a lack of innovation.

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Yeah. I’m sorry, but not that many people are going to buy a phone that costs over $1000, especially if they already have a phone from 2014 or later. No real reason to upgrade

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I think innovation is lacking in the entire smartphone industry right now, not just Apple… just not much to change/add. Sometime in next 5-10 years I see displays going away.

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For me the biggest upgrade that I am looking forward to is the waterproofing found on many new phones as past phones that had waterproofing as shown in @nigelhealy welcome to 2014 video when I last upgraded were not available with my carrier. I went on a ride at boulder beach last month and did not realize that people watching could feed money into a super soaker and spray us and we got hit hard but my phone luckily survived. My wife’s S6 could have been spared when she was chucked into a hot tub if it had some type of waterproofing and we hate the bulky big cases that offer that protection. My current phone also has a leak that has allowed dust to penetrate into the camera lens that I am hoping will be better with better seals. I haven’t decided which Android maker will get my hard earned $600-700 CAD yet but waterproofing is a must.

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qualcomm quick charge 4.0 charging technology with anker when can we see ?

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Hopefully not soon. There are far more urgent important needs such as USB-PD more smaller chargers and smaller portable chargers.

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You raise a very valid point that adding better water resistance will help particularly in unexpected soakings.

I am not familiar with the Canadian cellular foibles, so this could not be applicable, but I usually go with an unlocked phone bought direct from manufacturer and a SIM-only contract. Every single time I do the calculation in USA and UK it works out substantially lower cost. This liberates you to more freedom of phone choice getting more commonly all together that which you seek. We are now seeing global LTE bands phones so I don’t benefit from a EU phone with LTE band 20 to go along with USA band 12/17.

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I will give you an example and each carrier is different.
My plan is $65/month business share plan no contract.

NO Plan—If I purchase the S8 today it would cost me $1034.99 CAD. Lets divide that out over 24 months and it is $43.12/month
Plan-- same data and features $95/month plus the device up front cost right now with plan is $99 .
– 30x24+99 = $819.extra or $34.12/month extra from what I am paying now and I would save $215 over two years interest free.
In Canada they offer you a better deal with a plan so they can get you to buy the usage with them and lock you in. It is competitive and there are a number of carriers that want the money beyond the device cost.
Think of the $65/month that I am paying with no contract that is the outrageous part here in Canada probably the worst rates in the world and that is only 3Gb of data

Canada the most expensive G7 country for cellphone service

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UK example:

3GB is 12UKP ~ $20 CDN/month.

UK OnePlus5 (higher due to UK salestax 20%)

449ukp = $734 CDN.

So in UK example depreciating the phone across 24 hours is $734/24 CDN = $30.58 CDN / month and the UK SIM only $20/month = $50.58. So you paying $95/month is approaching double the UK cost and you pay a little extra $99 to buy handset.

In USA (where I am currently) it is $479 US ~ $602 CDN and I get 10GB/month at average of $30 USD/month ~ $38CDN/month, so the same calculation is $602/24+$38 = $63CDN for 10GB vs your $95 for 3GB.

So in this example the lowest cost country is UK then USA then CDN.

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I want true wireless charging, not a pad I set it on. I also want a laser projector function so I can project a video on the wall. Perhaps a dock that I could set it in and use as a console for gaming as well. Also let’s add an X-ray and FLIR function as well. And last but not least an Anker charging case for it when I’m away from my wireless charging area. :sunglasses::grimacing:

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Radiation diminishes to the square of distance, that is why proximity matters.

Induction is from electromagnetics so it obeys inverse square law.

Now you could shape the radiation to some degree via parabolic dish, it still obeys the inverse square law but uses a greater proportion of the original energy from one side and directs to the other side.

I expect incremental improvements as it is tweaked

http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/07/21/538531750/a-future-of-gadgets-without-power-cords-not-so-fast

Laser projector for a wall requires a lot of energy output and that produces heat. The amount of light reflected back at you is a fraction of what is sent out (think: if you look at a reflected image it does not blind you but if you look at the projector light it does blind you) It would make more sense to project directly into the eye as then it takes far less energy.

Given Apple is a follower not a leader, following Android in particular a year or so behind, I expect to now eventually add wireless charging, and that is also a rumor.

I’m wondering if they tweak it so you need a special charger only from Apple… you know to make it proprietary expensive. That is also hinted at

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