Zolo Liberty Available for Order on Amazon (11-20 UPDATE)

Question About Colours, Included DAC, and finding feature like Apple Airpod has.

service@zoloaudio.com may be able to respond to some of you inquiries.

The Apps look cool ! I’m gonna test them on my Android phone right away.

The regular version also won’t have support for the app I hear.

My guess is this is all a scam by Zolo. Every promise by them has been broken. Now they are claiming shipping delays due to Christmas in China!?

Which promise has been broken? Alexa? They explained the issues, and they might resolve it through firmware upgrades. Delays in Kickstarters are basically always sure to happen. Plus, they promised shipment in October 2017. If they manage to ship by October 31st, they are within their timeframe. If they ship by April 2018, they’ll be within Kickstarter average.

They are communicating, so as far as I’m concerned everything’s good.

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Any idea ? When zolo Liberty will be available on Amazon ? And what will be the price ? Can we expect discounts on Black Friday ?

Based on estimated delivery being in Oct 2017 for the Kickstarter campaign and that they haven’t shipped yet, I doubt they will get to Amazon until late Nov or December at the earliest, so Black Friday is likely to be out unless they give discount codes…

As for price, the MSRP on the KS campaign was $149 but often the price end’s up lower on Amazon after a few weeks of release…

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And the regular Liberty should be quite a bit cheaper ($100?)

I’m thinking in the $89-100 bracket once in full swing…

Our expected launch date for Amazon is December, and there is no Black Friday deals for this product.:blush:

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If you’re releasing it in December, can I assume that this is not an official listing then:

http://www.equip-u.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=759_563&products_id=21684

So now we see that they will be released in December.

Liberty $100 (nailed it!)
Liberty+ $150

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These look super cool. I’d love these and I’d love a pair of Apple iPods :heart_eyes:

I would take these over apple airpods any day even if they failed to work properly. I hae used airpods and they just don’t stay in my ear.
I have ently used these until me sweating killed them

Still no link for Liberty+ that I can find. :thinking::eyes:

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Patience patience :slight_smile:

I created an account here just to ask these questions.

Did they use the Kickstarter money to manufacture and distribute Liberty (non-plus model)?
Or did Anker pay for the Liberty (non-plus model)?

And if Anker was willing to invest money to do this, why did Zolo need a Kickstarter campaign?

Why didn’t Anker invest money to ensure that the Liberty+ was manufactured and shipped within the promised time?

From the Kickstarter campaign update #24 today: the Liberty+ will be available on retail once they ship all units to Kickstart backers.

Here’s the link if you want to read it - though you have to be a backer to have access: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1792059063/liberty-the-first-zero-compromise-total-wireless-e/posts/2045407

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Hi there @gseveri07!

Anker is not, yet, such a big company able to develop all their ideas at once without external money input. It’s not an uncommon behaviour. Peeble - rest in peace - used Kickstarter for their second edition even after the first one was a tremendous success. Bose, a big company, is using Kickstarter right now for a side-project.

The thing with Kickstarter is that it is simultaneously a funding and a marketing platform. Given that you advertise your product well, you can measure with quite a degree of confidence how interesting a product is to the market. If your product don’t get enough funding, it probably means that there’s no real interest. If your product gets funded within hours of launch and surpasses your initial assessments, it means there’s potential market for it.

I don’t work for Anker, but my guess is that they used Kickstarter as a funding/marketing platform for a “pet project”, in this case the Liberty+, while developing a simpler version of the same product, one that already had potential market. Think of it in terms of asking yourself a question such as this: “I have this product. I could go further into its development to add this, this, and this improvement would cost me XX while the price of the product would go to YY. But I’m not sure if the market would pay for those improvements. How could I test it?” And the answer is a Kickstart campaign.

As for “shipping within the promised time”, well, most Kickstart campaigns meet roadblocks in production. It is important to stress that the language used in Kickstarter campaigns - I believe it’s standard from the platform - is “predicted shipment”. Projects change along the way, all the time. If you even back a Kickstarter campaign it is important that you know what kind of game you are entering.

That said, they did started shipping within their predicted time of October 2017. The First Batch backers units were shipped. But, again, let’s mind the language. Shipping and delivering are two separate things. I have no idea how the logistics goes to ship from a manufacturing facility in China to India, which is just across the border, let alone to other continents. To keep costs down, companies such as Anker rely on bundling shipments, both with other products they manufacture and with products from other companies - much like it is cheaper for you to fly with an airline because they bundle a bunch of people in the same place, instead of you charting a plane for yourself. The trade-off is that you don’t get to choose your date and time of flight, you have to pick what the airline has available. So does Anker - and every other company for that matter. As a Kickstarter backer, you trade off paying a smaller price and receiving the product before everyone else for a little waiting time. It’s a fair trade.

I’m a Liberty+ backer. So far, compared to other projects I’ve backed, they are doing an excellent job. They communicate and answer questions, and they are open about what’s going on. They even addressed the very subject you pointed out in their latest campaign update.

Let’s all have a little patience. Our Liberty+ will arrive soon enough.