The need for a dash cam just got real!

Nah I’m good on that, sleep works for me. Thanks though

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No not true.

The world is getting safer every generation. True there are hot spots and riskier places and times but in general on average the world is getting safer.

What is happening is mostly the unseen, instead of dying on farmland in a farming mechanical machinery accident or in a factory or from lung failure from dust, you’re mostly dying old in nursing homes or at home and none see that apart from usually women who care. The urbanization, TV and proximity is making the event you didn’t see into one you do see.

Also bear in mind in a democracy, the candidate who says the world is better is not voted for, the one who says it is bad and you need to vote for them to make it better is voted for, given also news is paid for via commercials a really bad world makes the few richer.

I do 3 things differently:

  • I do not watch USA TV. USA TV makes the world appear worse than it really is. The billions of small acts of generous gentle kindness is no-news and the few bad incidents are broadcast widely, with the “messages from our sponsors”.

  • I do not drive. My getting about is via bike, I have beautiful sunsets and sunsets and rides with the dears and squirrels and the blossoms and now in winter the smell of wet earth and green.

  • I pick where I live, who I work for to avoid issues. That takes decades.

Shoot an arrow and walk to it where it lands. Repeat. Life is a journey not a destination.

If USA had to one thing different is to become Canada. Debate, disagree, less guns and less negative angst.

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A dash cam is no good if the person brakes your wife’s window, you should get her firearms trading and a 9mm handgun. In most states as soon as the car is breached you can use force to defend yourself. For $499 you can get her a Glock 23 with 15 round magazine. Also be wary that that guy could hunt you down and you may need to defend yourself in the coming future, stay frosty @elmo41683

Wrong my dude, cops are NOT sworn to protect the people, they keep the peace. By the time they arrive, you would have already bled out because some guy with and automatic rifle just shot you 12 times in your home. Having something as basic as a $300 shotgun is enough to deter someone. The sound of loading a shotgun round and cocking the firearm will cause panic in almost any criminal. Buckshot will make any intruder into Swiss cheese 10ft away

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I appreciate the response. Handgun training is viable in the future but for now it’s not an option. I do agree with @namroc22 that avoiding situations is much better. Just some things cannot be avoided. My wife is calm now and we did discuss
Things we/she can do in the future should something happens. But she is adamant about getting the dash cam now, so to ease that part of her mind we will look into that come next payday.

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glad to see you’re rested and better.

The older you get the more you gather evidence to form opinions, and run away from those with opinions who are still gathering evidence.

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life is short…enjoy it to fullest…you only live once…guns just make situations more complicated

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Wow! Sorry to hear that you and your wife had to go thru that. In this day and age, you never know what is going to set people off. I agree with you, a Dashcam will be a wise decision. If nothing else, for your own piece of mind or scare tactic for the guilty. I don’t blame your wife for being shaken up by it. I would be too. I have my C1 in my car currently. Most of the time, I forget it’s even there but I feel better knowing that it is there when I need it. :slight_smile:

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Thanks @Nhi , @nigelhealy , @namroc22 , @cdarienzo1

Glad everything turned out okay for you guys… a dash would have a been a really good thing to have during that situation. As for me, I always keep a pocket knife within arms reach just in case and a cup full of pennies to throw at people who try to cut me off… :grin:

Thanks Andrew, and I always have my knife on me too. But that’s a situation I prefer to leave alone with no weapons involved

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Wow Rob :rage: proper scary stuff to have some muppets acting like this and even scarier to to witness them doing it to your wife. Glad it all turned out in the end of course and hope you can pick one up soon fella. Best wishes buddy.

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Here in California we are limited to 10rds only :unamused: Thats why you better be a damn good shot. Another thing is if you have a handgun and say for example you were in this situation that @elmo41683 and his wife were in. Reading what he said happened here in CA he wouldnot have been justified to shoot until that other party made him fear for his life, wether directly stating he would kill “Mr Or Mrs.Elmo” CA is a crap state to even remotely want to shoot someone you will have the entire book thrown at your ass, just for protecting it. Regardless of that I always carry everywhere I go (CCW) I have only had to draw my firearm once in 6 years which is good given the area I live in. So for someone to say firearms make a situation worse, I would have to disagree, I would rather be caught with a firearm than without. And would rather have the chance to be judged by a panel of 12 than carried away by 6. :wink:

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I like facts, they are always the strongest basis to form opinions.

+1 gun = +1 more which can shoot = +N deaths

Add these to:

Hence the issue is you’ve got lethal weapons in hands of those not fit to own, and it is not your health today or the day you got the gun but every day of your life from the time you got the gun.

These are roughly the numbers I see

  • the ability to harm others directly with words ~ nil
  • ability to harm someone with bare hands ~ 1
  • ability to harm someone with a knife or a truck of some other mass available general product ~ 1 - dozen
  • ability to kill with guns ~ 1 - hundreds

So the data suggests removing of guns is the best approach. +1 gun is an advocacy for a worse situation, and the answer has to be multiple including general civility, politeness, consideration, tolerance and better mental health services, because these other non-gun aspects are better in other countries with similar gun ownership.

If it were easy to do all these then the problems would not exist now to the current scale, so it takes both the ability, via schools, to separate facts from opinions, the ability to be rational, logical conclusion from evidence, and then these evidence-based logical people to then go and vote in the obvious.

I’m a strong advocate of:

So say you run away… and that person in turn would still more than likely follow you if like you say they are not in their right minds that particular day, and they will still try to harm you and probably worse than if you stayed there in the first place or had the ability to protect yourself with a handgun ending the threat right then and there. There are some situations where running away is not the best solution is my point. Most mass shootings and shootings in general could have been avoided if there was a person with a means of eliminating that threat in the room or nearby. Statistics only take into consideration crimes that law enforcement knows about so statistics isn’t really a solid foundation to base a complete argument about wether weapons should be entirely eliminated thus resolving crime in the world.

We live in a world where technology can produce anything we want from the privacy of our homes. So say one day guns were banned and no one had them and we ALL turned in our firearms and weapons. Then we get into the ghost gun debate. Individuals manufacturing and making their own weapons and firearms from the privacy of their own homes much more “deadly” if you ask me.

And individuals can be hurt with words as we are now seeing in this day and age, young kids and adults commit suicide everyday without so much as another individual laying a finger on them. So to say words do not kill is wrong. Bullying accounts for over 4400 deaths per year and for each of those deaths over 100 individuals will attempt to kill themselves. It’s just the facts of this world that we live in. Nothing we do or say will ever stop it from getting worse as much as we would like to think otherwise.

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Though what prosecutor is going to go after a woman for self defense? The jury would be in more favor since the assailant is dead and its now her word and @elmo41683. The case would most likely be written off since no one is going to risk the reputation and job over something like that. Ten rounds is not bad, just carry a double kydex inner belt rig and then you have an additional two mags, plus the one in you handgun.

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@nigelhealy @cava3395 @cdarienzo1 i appreciate the feedback guys but really lets not get into the debate over guns and what one does or doesnt do on their own terms. I already said it wasnt an option right now so please leave it at that and end the debate.

My wife and I are fine, she is no longer shooken up from the situation and we are moving forward.

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We were talking about guns in general not what you and your wife want to do or not do for self defense. :grin:

Exactly. A well centered shot will make it in your favor :joy::joy: :wink: