PowerPort Atom PD 4 wattage?

Their existing powerport with one USB C and one USB A says that it can supply 19.5W though the USB A,

So combining the two USB C with two USB A, gets us to 99W …

You mean the Powerport II, with “PowerIQ 2.0”, right? The specs sheet in the manual says it’s 18W, but in any case, close enough I guess. It seems PowerIQ 2.0 might be emulating Qualcomm’s QuickCharge, since AFAIK there’s no other standard that mobile devices use that does 9V/2A and 12V/1.5A, besides Samsung’s but that also seems to be based on QuickCharge.

Power IQ 2.0 is Ankers version of quick charge 2.0. and if you look or research there’s a handful if companies that offer something similar, as it’s a way around having to license the QC tech from Qualcomm

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Yeah, i need to buy that sometime…

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I need something before my late December trip to charge my laptop (USB-C up to 65w), phone (USB-C or A), camera, DAP etc.and doesn’t look like PD 4 will be out or even PD 1.

can someone recommend a USB-C+A charger available now?

edit: found these so far:
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=33467

both pretty bulky. the thin ones i posted might be better. see if anker releases PD 4 soon.

Early Power IQ 2.0 was 18w now PIQ 2.0 is 19.5w to overcome losses in the cable.

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I recommend making your device decisions at the same time as your charger decisions.

Some of the asks we see here are ridiculous from an electrical perspective. 100W is going to be a huge lot of heat to put into a small form factor, you’re inevitably going to have to have a thin slab type shape to dissipate heat, and if you did that as a wall charger you either have something which falls out of the wall socket or won’t work in confined spaces.

You can get close to this via multiple chargers and then use one of them in the wall or use two wall sockets or put them either side of an extension cord which goes in the wall. You then got 3 ways of plugging in.

So I think we’re looking at slower chargers which in the wall or full power chargers on the end of cords.

I just spent a couple of hours with some isopropyl alcohol and some q-tips to clean a >2.5 year old Pixel C keyboard… because that tablet’s 3A 5V input works well with shipping Anker products in a compact form factor for all of the chargers and Powercore.

Every time I looked at newer devices I hit some kind of power problem. Not a good answer for late 2018, because come 2019 to make a 2016 tablet still work will involve an hairdryer and screwdrivers.

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Glacial pace, indeed! Atom was to be released in November … Wonder if Anker is taking cues from Apple, esp with respect to Apple’s apparent vaporware known as AirPower …

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They have said and already stated numerous times that the atom went back to the drawing table for more refinement. We would rather have a safe and effective product than one rushed to the market full if defects and safety hazards. Sure Anker has fallen behind, but at least they are determined to get it right when it is released some time in the first quarter next year

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Good, no rush jobs!

So, you’re saying Anker is not like Apple after all … i.e., at least Anker is advising why the Atom is delayed, versus Apple’s radio silence on AirPower. :grin:

Anker is not taking cues from Apple as they are being very clear that they pulled the product for improvements. Apple meanwhile always has a tendancy to dangle the carrot but never show it until it is perfect, or if its a failure it gradually fades away.

Ok, so it looks like the USB-C ports themselves are capable of outputting up to 100W. Both A ports are PowerIQ 1.0 so capped at 12 each. That leaves 76W for PD when both are in use.

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I know I’m late but I love this unit and it consistently supplies 60W to my laptop: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00WM93M9S/

I was really hoping that the PD 4 would support up to 100w if there was only one port in use. My 15in MBP came with an 87w behemoth of a power brick. I was hoping for something smaller, but still as powerful.

Any detail about dimension and weight?

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Yes that seems to be case from this:

So you see there a 20V 5A 100W mode, so yes single port used gets 100W.

The lack of clarity is how it shares it “intelligently”. Assuming these are all the PD modes then imagine two PD devices, well then you’re looking at a little wasted power because for example two ports at 15V 3A 45W leaves 10W wasted. So if you used 2 PD ports you’d need something wanting no more than 10W to be happily using all the power.

You can imagine say you had one PD device and something non-PD well if these specs are the full information than that 20V 5A 100W has no choice but to come down to 45W and the simple act of plugging in anything to that Type A ports which cannot take more than 5V 2.4A 12W means you are using at most 45+12=67W so 33W are wasted.

So there must be more to this than the Amazon blurb. They must be keeping voltages at these discreet levels and reducing current to not have wasted power?

The issue then is the interoperability with the PD devices, imagine Anker in the 1 PD + 1 A scenario gave 12W to the A port so 88W left at PD port well you’d to give out 4.4A 20V not 5A 20V, so how would the device feel about only 4.4A at 20V? Would it then decide itself to go down to 15V and so only take 45W and not 88W?

At this point we need the product in hands of reviewers, with USB PD meters and lots of PD devices and measure.

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Also notice there is no mention of Gallium Nitride on Amazon… Makes me suspicious.

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