Organic solar are lighter, so I see them ending up in more places. One idea for the ugly solar problem was solar roof coverings which look just like a normal roof, so none can tell.
Solar Organics
California passed a mandate that all new homes be built with solar panels, and imo I think every state should pass similar mandate. Be it actual solar panels or solar roof tiles/shingles like what tesla makes
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I think Tesla has the right idea in making solar roof tiles.
Anything that can use solar power in a covert manner is good.
I remember years ago, talk of shoes that could charge your phone, by each step creating power.
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TOTAL MSRP* $131,400 (base). I’ll take 20.
Kinetic energy based chargers. They store energy generated from movements, like of like those shake-it flashlights. Maybe you’re thinking about the nPower Peg?
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Wonder what shoes like that would look like going through an airport X-ray scanner 
the project was probably killed after that shoe bomber.
As for solar I don’t think we are going to see any significant changes in the way governments think about and implement it until we see it more environmentally friendly Administration. Fossil fuels as bad as they are for the environment are great for driving economy’s around the world. Don’t get me wrong I am all for renewable green energy and eliminating the use of fossil fuels but that is a complex issue.
on a side note has anybody heard of solar panels that also generate electricity when it’s raining?
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I always wondered why Tesla doesn’t use solar panels on their cars. Whatever little energy comes from it, it’s still free energy, so why not?
Not efficient enough to justify extra weight and complexity. Maybe a small panel to power cabin fans like the Prius. That should do nicely.
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In theory, this is a great idea, but I’m not sure it’s practical.
Not to get political, but I have a hard time when government bodies mandate certain things like this, mostly because technology changes so much. Sure, solar might be a good option now, but what about 5 years from now? 10 years from now? 20 years from now? With the investment that comes with owning a home, I don’t think I would want to be forced to commit to an energy source that may be outdated before the house is only a few years old (relatively speaking).
Respectfully, I don’t think it’s such a bad idea. Solar energy is still improving, still being widely adopted. We are past the point where we should be using any means to ease the charge on the electric network, and on the planet.
Construction technology improves over time. A house built 50 years ago with the technology and the mandates of the time still stands today - though it can be improved by renovating to today’s standards. Solar panels are just one more item on the array of different tech in a home.
From a government standpoint, it’s even better. Once enough houses have solar panels, the charge on the electric network will decrease.
But, as with many other environmental issues, we should be first talking about the big spenders, and that’s not residential houses. Every factory and large office building should be mandated to have self-generated energy solutions implemented, as they consume over 70% of the energy. Individual efforts are nice, sure, but even if every individual put the effort, we would still have a problem without the big companies acting.
I think we are agreeing, for the most point. Anything that we can do to encourage renewable energy is great.
Mandating such a thing requires an owner to buy into a technology that may be obsolete in the foreseeable future is my gripe. Instead of mandating it, why not put high incentive tax rebates for those who choose to participate? Not giving the consumer a choice is philosophically where I have an issue.
There Is a notion of green washing, where you buy a thing thinking it helps but doesn’t actually.
Tesla for example, energy to build the factory, energy to build the car, energy to ship parts, people, the energy use of the people who make the parts and make the car and built the factory. The non recyclables in all of the entire life cycle of every part from raw material to back to raw material.
No the most efficient are cities with efficient public transportation with folks walking or biking the last mile problem. Very few need a car, they either are obtuse themselves or city planning cause the problem via home work distances.
Yes solar will get better but that’s no excuse to delay.
We’re looking at a child born now being old in a world without Florida. Anker’s factory under water.
Organic solar is one example innovation and could be used at the next house building.
Not a big fan of offices unless we get a mixed use city planning where homes, shops, work are mingled so you don’t get a commute rush.
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Ethanol is along the same lines. In the end, it’s basically a wash, but at least it comes from our farmers and is renewable.
Now you hit the nerve!
I would like to see the new organic solar cells in tents, vehicles, roads and sidewalks. Anywhere you can collect energy and create electricity.
I don’t know what to think about solar for the moment. The German government supported you to install solar panels, but they stopped the program.
I think one of the reasons was the production process and how much carbon dioxide they produced in it.
Someone built a tent that had solar panels integrated, but its cost was so high that only a handful of people brought it and the company stopped making them. I too wyld like to see this become wide spread and implemented into many everyday products we use and see
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We have so many smart people in the world, and have had brilliant minds in the recent past. It just blows my mind that Elon seems to be the only one spearheading innovation in sectors that have been stale for no apparent reason (i mean, we all know its because of the government’s unwillingness to progress in tech)
The amount of hate Elon’s company gets from gov and media is incredible…things like national coverage on a tesla car crash…like really? Thousands of regular cars get into car crashes and there is national coverage on one tesla car crash? cmon now.
back on track though, I often think when im bored about how mind boggling it is to think that cars have not improved much on gas mileage in god knows how long, about how electric cars was literally scrapped under GWbush in cali where he literally forcibly took EVs away from all the owners and destroyed them (literally destroyed them). This was early 2000s also…
We get some incredible innovation in consumer tech every year in the form of cellphones, tvs, etc, but it just doesnt make any sense that there hasnt been innovation on things that will truly make a difference in our path to a futuristic society. I mean, how often do we fantasize about our future, where cars might be flying, where hologram technology is completed, etc…and to see only one man taking extreme measures to make this happen while also benefiting our planet, like kudos really. This is also not to discredit hundreds of thousands of other entrepreneurs who are working on making taking our society to the future, but when you just see the product elon has created in such a short amount of time and to see how much of a scale he wants to take it to, its mind blowing.
I’ve test driven tesla before and it was as if I was in the future…but in the present…as if i time traveled into the future and drove a car decades in the future…but at the present time. It was so incredible that I would test drive the latest and greatest models of BMW and Mercedez and it just doesnt compare…they look…outdated almost. isnt that amazing? Elon has also mentioned that it wouldnt matter if competitors knocked him out of business in EVs, because that would mean he made them do it, HE alone caused a chain reaction amongst the big car companies to make a change. that is great.
I am very excited for the solar roof that Tesla has made…it is costly for sure but it isn’t too costly considering the tax credit and the benefit in the long run, I would totally look to purchasing this in the future, as long as their production does not have difficulties.
This is an Anker community so we can get way off core point, so I’ll try to bring it back.
It is far more efficient to generate power at mass scale, not too far a distance from consumption, than it is to have lots of smaller generators. Take for example solar farms vs solar roofs. The solar farm can tilt towards a moving sun, and people/robots move across and blow air / water to keep the panels cleaner than you can do on a roof. One robot working 100% of the time cleans many panels vs one robot idle 99% of the time per roof cleaning.
Storing energy is far more efficient at scale than small and local. Inverters for DC / AC / DC are more efficient if larger. AC is more efficient to transmit energy at distance (step-up, higher voltage, lower current so less power loss from resistance).
So making a car heavier for token silicon solar panel is dumb. No, it makes more sense to make all surfaces solar generating when the weight cost is nil (organics look like they can be no weight increase) and then top-up with mass scale solar which does mass scale energy storage.
We get enough solar energy in 1% of the world’s surface to meet all our needs.
For energy storage, I suggest that hydrogen cells and using water is the best way forward. If we use solar power to split water into hydrogen and oxygen, and store the hydrogen and burn it in fuel cells which catalyzes with oxygen then water is split then recombined with none of the issues with Lithium oxides aging batteries.
Once we move from solar / water / energy / water then we can become a space fairing nation as there is a lot of water out in space so we launch a light low orbit satellite and then refuel using energy got from solar and asteroids. Once we get to space fairing then we can become not limited by this one small planet.
We can use space-born solar panels to regulate planet’s temperature, as there are natural macro cycles of both climate and weather, we can block the sun from the planet’s surface in part or full to reduce radiation on a patch of the planet, so we can neutralize the excesses of climate change and weather once we get control of space. For example if it too hot in part of the planet a large space-born solar panel can be placed to shadow that spot of the earth to reduce the sun’s strength. We can also reflect sun from too-hot parts of the earth to not hot enough, or towards the natural deserts where we placed mass solar farms.
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HHO gas all the way:+1:
only trouble I see with that is a bunch of dummies blowing themselves up by accident. But hey the gene pool could use a little thinning out.
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