[New Release] PowerCore 20000 Redux

Wooooohoooooo lol
If I needed trickle charge for my smaller devices, I wouldn’t be carrying around a 20000mh hahaha
Maybe a small 2000mh with trickle would be a good thing for earphones though.

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The Mini in reality is not far off trickle charger, it cuts off at like 90% charge and I might need to press power a few times to turn Anker buds to fully charged.

The sweetspot product you can imagine is within cheap viability is a 3 cell 21700 with IQ2 PD 9V 2A 18W 3 sockets.

This 20000 product is technically weaker than their Powercore Ii which recharged in 5h vs this newr one 9h, so electrical it’s a rehashing of 3 year old technology just using 21700 *4 vs 18650 *6. The volume of 4 21700 is 21x21x2x70x2= 123,480cumm , 6 18650 is 18x18x3x65x2= 126,360 so actually this is no smaller just taller and narrow so why can only fit 2 ports.

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Trickle charge is nice I will admit that but i usually use the battery to charge my phone and usually it’s because I need power and I need it fast so usb c would be the way to go

This is not Anker’s fault it is the phone manufacturers and chipset designers patenting their wares so there is a zoo of charging.

The last time Anker did something to de-clutter this was IQ2 when they reverse-engineered compatibility with Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0. Before that was IQ where iphone and Android used different pins for charging.

Currently, unless Anker is going to do-clutter again, with let’s call it IQ3, you do need to really have 2 sockets, like way back before IQ when you had an Android socket and an iPhone socket.

Power Delivery negotiates on a voltage / current and then delivers the fastest - and so you get a race to the bottom and sometimes you end up with a useless socket. Laptops for example, may only do a minimum of 20V and Anker does a maximum of 15V, so your laptop will not find a common denominator and you bought a useless combination.

Some technologies use 5V but they can usefully take more than 2A current. So all of these 5V products would be not wasting anything plugged into a 5V 3A socket.

So there’s a choice:

  • PD specific products
  • dual IQ2 PD products
  • Anker reverse engineers a new IQ3 which merges these.

So its not such much criticism of Anker for what they released, but what they not released. A slightly different Fusion say not 15W but a USB-PD 9V 2A 18W and a IQ2 9V 2A I8W which both could not be used concurrently at 18W but say would become 5V 2A 10W sockets, would have been a modest change but made the Fusion 10000 more useful to more people. Specifically I have a tablet with I have metered and can benefit from 9V 2A 18W so if they’d done that I’d have found it more useful.

I have a laptop will not work with the 30W USB-PD product Anker gave me, so it they did a 45W, would move from use-less to use-ful.

It’s what @joshuad11 said. We lack higher power in smaller products and we lack even higher power also. To make a physically huge product which is only 10Ah and only 15W is quite a bit of meh, and yet Anker thinks its worth shouting out.

Waiting.

And my final rant is… Anker says really amazing things are coming - exactly what? They were mentioning many PD products a year ago at CES 2018, most of which did not ship, and now its a secret? And they have this community to ask us if something matters or not in deciding what to do next and doesn’t ask us?

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Maybe when Anker releases portable charges they should add the option to choose between a micro USB or USC C cable. Maybe even charge a dollar or 2 extra for the USB C cable

Or keep it simple and no bundled cable and let you pick. I have a draw of original short-ish black Anker cables i never use. They need to focus on innovation not marketing.

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Let’s hope rethink their bundled cables going forward :+1:

I updated my spreadsheet to compare.

Both Redux 10000 and 20000 are physically bigger for the same performance than their predecessor from a wattage perspective.

So I looked from a physical size, mAh and Wh perspective to figure out why.

The LG M50 21700 5000mAh is 47% bigger, 49% more mAh and 47% more Wh than the Panasonic 18650 3350mAh.

So they’re basically the same energy with a small difference per unit of size.

So you’d expect therefore to change cells to the same energy density the resulting products would be about the same size but they have got bigger.

The only logical reason I can think of is the Amazon dimensions are wrong.

If I’m not wrong the name Redux needs to change to Enlarge.

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Not necessarily improved :wink: