Google pay

Yeah, those places exist here too, and I understand why - the merchants pay a fee for each transaction, smaller merchants sometimes prefer to avoid this fee or simply can’t afford paying it.

It does get me into a bit of a corner: on one side, I want to support local businesses and I actively go out of my way to shop local, specially with food; on the other, I can’t deny the convenience of cards, and now paying with our phones. And I would prefer not to have any cash on me.

Good but there is a love hate in the case of Android with Google.

Google insists Android must be certified by Google, like the locked Apple platform, if you are to use Android Pay.

Google makes money from almost every app they pre installed.

Ads in YouTube, Chrome browser, in apps.

So I unlocked my bootloader, rooted vis magisk, use adaway to block ads. Iytpb for YouTube. On the Android devices I don’t use Android Pay I use Xposed and minminguard.

There is a continuous battle between Google and rooting called safety net which if it senses not stock it prevents Android Pay.

I have an Android Wear which supports Android Pay, what I ended up doing is pair with an old phone which stays home so it runs stock. My phone in my pocket is rooted

What this means is I can leave house with just my watch, pair with Soundbud Slim+ and pay for things and receive calls and messages. Battery lasts about 4 hours on LTE.

I own a small business and we pay 6 cents per transaction when debit or tap or apple or google pay is used providing the money is from debit. If the money is from visa or MasterCard the charge is 1.5 to 3% plus a transaction fee. It is much better to use debit or cash for small business


I can totally understand your point. I just think how long some shops will wait until they accept Credit Cards. I think it is one of the most important things for the next years.

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I have seen shops putting a sign by the till and saying 3% charge for Credit Card transactions.

Kinda help people get their cash out and some just care and pay the extra so your costs are covered.

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Wait 2 days

Lol, doubt they stop them from giving a discount for cash purchase though. If you close your eyes you will see the same result. Raise the price and discount for cash

I set up and tried Android pay this weekend and it worked better than I had hoped. You are required to have a lock screen set up for the app to work and all you do is unlock the phone and hold it over the debit reader and bingo. What I liked is that I had to be right above the reader. Two inches back and it didn’t work. This in my opinion is safer than having my credit card in my wallet as I have lost my wallet on two occasions and have never lost my phone. If I do lose my phone I can lock and erase it much faster than cancelling my cards and ordering new cards. The machine I used it on did not have an Android pay symbol but the machine had the wifi looking symbol for “tap” so I guess that is all that is need3d and since most machines in Canada have tap now this will be my go to form of payment. This along with my stocard app that keeps all my discount cards

Yeah, pretty similar to Apple Pay, as long as the terminal takes contactless credit/debit cards you can use your Apple/Google pay via the phone or Apple Watch :blush:

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If you get Android Pay on your Android Wear then the heart beat sensor acts to know the phone is on your wrist, then you unlock it once once on your wrist. You can program one of the buttons to be Android Pay then walk into store and hold watch to terminal.

If its raining then therefore I can just go with my waterproof watch and no reach in pockets for anything.

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That’s awesome. I have been interested in the watches for some time and I used to wear a watch every day when I was younger. trouble is I haven’t worn a watch in about 15 years…about the same time I got my first flip phone. I have a bling/bling watch for when I am at something formal and do not have my phone with me. I am a part owner of a sharpening shop and the equipment we run would rip a watch right from my wrist or worse pull me into a grinder or lathe so that is out of the question. I guess I need to decide how much I want to spend just to wear it while shopping only. Great idea though for the right situation and person.

The real honest answer is you don’t need a smart watch, it is just geek addiction.

However what you can do is just use it instead of a phone, you can get a phone on your wrist which receives calls and you can pay for stuff off your wrist.

The most valuable use of a smart watch is is notification filtering, a bleep and glance at your wrist and then if its important then react, without having to grab your phone. What I found is if I didnt have a smart watch on, I was missing via having to get the phone.

The other aspect is universal availability - the lack thereof - most of my shopping is done at places which accept Android Pay (future: Google Pay) but not everywhere does so the 1st world problem I have to leave home with all the methods of buying things with me, cash and a plastic card anyway, so the watch is saving me only a second or so of reach into pocket. As I say, the smart watch is really just geek joy, you could de-invent it and barely the world would weep any tear.

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I do love paying with my Apple Watch. 2 taps on the button and my card appears. Hold it to the terminal and bosh!!! Paid!! (If under £30 lol)

Drive thru’s Are not so clever though as I wear it on my left wrist and the window is on my right so have to twist and stretch to reach the terminals haha

I use android pay on my phone for nearly everything now. My local supermarket has even removed the max £30 limit!
However I am now at the point where I need to think about my PIN when I need to use it… Took 3 tried last to get it right time when I was filling up the car :joy:

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@Arwen if your phone has it why not just set up the fingerprint security to make it faster and easier to pay?

That is how I pay for most things. But currently unable to pay for fuel at the pump using phones :frowning: (Plus, it’s over £30 to fill my car)

I hate that you can’t use it at the gas pump. Many gas stations use a discount card that does not have swipe set up so there is that as well.

I just used Android Pay in my local supermarket, on my Android Wear watch and there is no PIN involved, I have to use an unlock (I chose a pattern) and you unlock once you put it on your wrist then there is no PIN task as the time of use. It is a two step task, I press a button as I queue to approach the queue, then once items swiped then hold wrist to til.

Visiting UK soon and will try it there with my UK card…

As its practically impossible to lose it, as its attached to your wrist, it is a good way to pay for things in pubs. Also good in wet situations.

Personally I would prefer if we move to a more bio based method - looking at til or just be present and it auto debits like Amazon Go. If you may recall that used to be how it was done in some shops, you said “put it on my tab” to the shopkeeper and came in periodically to settle your tab, so there was not money authorization at the time of each sale.

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@elmo41683 @nigelhealy I think what @Arwen is referring to is that now that she uses android pay and does not need a pin, the seldom used pin causes her to forget the said pin when she is forced to use it at the gas station that does not accept the android pay :wink: Wow that was a long sentence

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Yea I figured as much. My local gas station allows you to pay at the pump with your watch or phone. They receny replaced all their pumps so they accept apple and google pay now at the pumps, similar to how mobile stations have the tap to pay with your keyring.

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